Petition Started To Urge Fuji-TV Not to Air Blackface Minstrel Show

Last week we reported on popular J-pop group, Momoiro Clover Z, donning blackface in a special collaboration with notorious doo-wop, blackface group, Rats & Star.

The collaboration in question is set to air on March 7th, on Fuji-TV’s Music Fair. However many have found the situation to be offensive and racist to black people, considering the history behind blackface. As a result, the tweet gained traction as many (such as New York Times reporter Hiroko Tabuchi and Wired writer Daniel Feit) criticized both groups. Momoiro Clover Z cancelled a promotion they were supposed to have with the Foreign Correspondents Club of Japan. Despite that, anough an official apology was not issued.

However now, a petition has started on Change.org, calling for Fuji-TV not to air the episode due March 7th. The petition was started by writer Baye McNeil who currently resides to Japan. While the petition was only started 2 days ago, it has gain traction with over 1,300 supporters (both Japanese and non-Japanese) backing its cause.

Baye McNeil also wrote an article for the JapanTimes on why blackface isn’t right and modern-day minstrelsy in Japan. With only two weeks before the airing of the episode, many wonder if Fuji-TV will edit the episode, choose not to air it or pretend that nothing happened. Likewise, will Momoiro Clover Z and Rat s& Star acknowledge and apologise for what they did or continue as usual.

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    • idi u kurac

      1.3k supporters is nothing. that show is going to air and the american libtard tears of whom have no relation to japan will be delicious

      • Ja’Crispy

        I couldn’t even get my school lunch changed with a petition that small…. ಠ_ಠ

        • Idk why people think petitions actually mean anything to huge-ass companies… I think it’s a good thing to stand for what you believe but it just doesn’t work like a lot of people expect it to…

      • surfboardt

        til: Having a basic level of respect for other people makes you an “American libtard”.
        http://i.imgur.com/35lqIvA.gif

        • idi u kurac

          oh look, a libtard using reddit terminology. what a surprise

          • WORLD HERITAGE

            back to /jp/, neckbeard

      • Guest

        I mean, the reason they are in black face is an HOMAGE to doowoop and Black American culture so it’s everything to do with Americans tbqh. It’s pretty ridiculous they’re offending the ones they think they are paying tribute to. How can u be so dumb?

        On a further note, I doubt they’ll air it. Japanese TV stations are super scared of raising a stink with ANYONE, even if it had like 100 signatures it’d probably still be enough not to air it.

    • Ja’Crispy

      lol I bet they thought it was over. nope. I honestly thought it would disappear because they will never acknowledge any wrongdoing, but here it is. I’m giving up on the hope of Japan ever changing this, but I’ll always detest these kind of things. Good luck, Japan.

    • Alva Starr

      How many of the signatures are actually from within Japan though? I doubt they care what people, who can’t watch it anyway, think.

      • At the top of the petition, it’s swarming with foreigners but that’s because it’s being pimped out on social media more now. If you continue to through the petition, you see more Japanese signatures. There are some signatures from Hong Kong and such.

    • はじめましてよろしくお願いします

      i got into a discussion over the picture with a japanese university student, and when I showed her the picture her response was “what’s bad about the picture?” i then showed a few racist japanese pictures and she saw it as no big deal.

      • Ja’Crispy

        When you said “a few racist japanese pictures”, did you mean pictures revealing racism towards Japanese people or the other way around because I can’t tell by the way you phrased it. (I understood the first part though)

        • はじめましてよろしくお願いします

          cartoonishly stereotypical pictures. I was trying to show an equivalent to Blackface.

          • Ja’Crispy

            Okay, thanks. I find it weird that she didn’t care, but I guess she was thinking that it wasn’t an insult directed at her, so she didn’t take it personally.

            • はじめましてよろしくお願いします

              yeah a lot of these type of things have as much power as people give them

              • Ja’Crispy

                words of wisdom

              • Geh

                True. In a way to acknowledge that a thing is racist gives power for people to spread awareness as well. Things are not just black or white, there are shades of grey.

      • A

        I read some of the girlchannel comments regarding the blackface incident, and surprisingly a lot of them seemed to understand that is was offensive. They also compared it to when a Non-Asian person pulls their eyes back to make it look slanted.. so I’m guessing, slowly, more and more people are beginning to understand racism & discrimination??

    • Oh

      Unfortunately, I don’t think FujiTV will care. They’ve been the subject of petitions and boycotts for various reasons for decades and they’ve never changed. I think the heat should be directed toward Stardust too.

      • Guest

        They did change tbqh. They cut down K-pop and Koreans from their schedule pretty soon after the batshit right-wing people started demonstrating.

        I feel like people that are saying this has no impact have no knowledge of how Japanese companies work. Yeah, they’re super out of touch and run by old men but the minute people started raising a stink they go on OTT mode because they have no clue on how to deal with this type of shit. I doubt they’ll air this performance.

        • Oh

          It took about 2 years, a well respected actor saying something racist and being dropped by his agency and then becoming the face of the right-wingers, other talents and comedians lashing out against the boom, etc. What FINALLY brought the change was K-POP acts that aren’t Tohoshinki and SNSD continually selling like crap to the point where they couldn’t hide the fact that the boom was over. I’m just saying they’re not quick to deal with complaints. They have a history for not doing shit, going back decades.

          • Guest

            pretty sure Tohoshinki or whatever was cut from Music Station and Kouhaku before they started selling like crap (probably cause this never really happened, did it?).

            • What

              but those aren’t TV Asahi shows. and the person above said K-pop acts that aren’t Tohoshinki and SNSD…can you read or what’s going on lol.

              • Guest

                Sweetheart, Tohoshinki and SNSD are still not on Music Station or Kouhaku, even if they sell better than 70% of the acts they have on (especially Tohoshinki, I think SNSD sales are kind of meh nowadays). And actually, Kohaku is on NHK. If you don’t think they weren’t banned from all major music TV shows in Japan for political/netizen pressure in Japan you are insane.

    • dhirrr

      I’ve lived in US long enough to know this is wrong. But for Japanese, everyone believes they do this out of respect to black people. There are many Japanese people who are fans of black artists or athletes and tan their skin to look like them. Also, it’s hard for Japanese to see the historical background to understand why this is offensive because they don’t know much about racism. Japan is very homogeneous country. They need to be educated about what the rest of the world think or how black people feel about this. But I also want people to know Japanese are not all racists either.

      • guest

        This. I have also noticed that most of the Americans who are self-professed non-racists and openly decry things like blackface, but they are themselves racist in similar ways. For example, I was at a doctoral graduation party and these cases happened. A Chinese woman with naturally frizzy hair went there. She was told by white profs that she can’t have hair like that as “everyone” knows Chinese people have straight hair and she is insulting black people by imitating their frizzy hair in a failed afro. She explains that she did not style her hair in a failed afro and that she has bobbed hair that is naturally frizzy. They tell her to straighten it so as not to be called out as a racist or someone who makes fun of blacks. A white woman wore a cheongsam and was slammed for being insulting to the Chinese. The people who slammed her were of both sexes and all races said that she had not right to wear it when she was not Chinese and that it was her way of showing up that culture. Some Asians thought her charming and beautiful and said so. These Asians were called pitiful for not knowing they were insulted that their culture/national dress was “prostituted” this way, and being shown up that the white woman was showing off how much better she looked in the cheongsam than they were. A black woman wears a kimono and some Asian profs thought she looked beautiful. She was slammed in the same way as the white woman in the cheongsam. A Vietnamese girl wears her aoi dai to the party and she is mistaken for wearing a cheongsam with pants. She was told by BOTH professors and classmates that she should NOT have worn that to the party because people might think she’s a prostitute/mail order bride wannabe playing her exotic asian heritage, one professor even well-meaningly told her that the pants to her “cheongsam” won’t stop people from thinking she’s a Suzie Wong character and she’s lucky the university is “safe”. They tell her to wear “normal” clothes like them.

      • Ms.Captain obvious

        No one is saying all Japanese people are racist, and in my heart I know what they did was not out of malice, but we also want Japan to know they can’t get away with playing the ignorance card since this has happened before plenty of times!

        The Japanese media has been called out before..,this isn’t brand new!!

        • dhirrr

          That’s why the Japanese journalist in New York pointed this out and said it’s wrong. She wanted to educate Japanese. It’s not easy though. They really have no clue. Japanese tend to argue with logic often times and forget about other party’s feelings. I read her tweets. She kept telling Japanese guys “Talk to a black persons and see how he/she feel s about it.” There just aren’t much argument about racism in Japan.

    • sumomona

      some comments here are gross. racism without ill intent is still racism y’all.

      • Ja’Crispy

        like how Hitler didn’t see anything wrong w/ what he was doing. It didn’t make it right/okay. I know those are two different things, but the idea that they didn’t see anything wrong with it…

      • Geh

        Giving me flashback of that Johnny Badhair dude and a flock of ignoranamos upvoting and agreeing to his comments in the first momoclo does blackface article. Yuck.

      • bun

        except no one is saying it was okay, just that instead of being treated to harshly they should be educated instead.

        • Geh

          No. People were denying there was no racism if there was no ill intent. They were justifying the racism as part of an ignorant culture and asking those they have offended to endure. They said blackface is not racist in Japanese context because they do it as a compliment to the black community which was not true. They did it to humor themselves – this is not ganguro, it was straight out minstrel. There should be no argument that blackface is racist in any context.

          How harsh did people like me come across by simply saying “that’s racist”? Is asking for an apology harsh?

          People condemn the act of making the racist offense not the offenser. The only condemnation directly to those who’s behind the blackfacing gig is calling them out them as ignorants who need to educate themselves.

    • anon

      Are the foreigners in the petition mostly Americans? If so, I think it explains a lot.

      I am not saying that one side is definitely wrong, and I not saying that one side is definitely right. In my opinion, both sides are equally right and wrong and have to do much to learn about each other.

      On the one hand, most Japanese don’t think it’s wrong even if they about the history of slavery in America. They genuinely think it is paying a compliment to the music, style and history of black people in showbusiness (and showbusiness is understood to be a broad term including minstrel shows of the past, vaudeville etc). Americans should take this into account.
      Yes, Japan can be rascist. I have lectured in Japan and they do treat Okinawans as “other” because their dialect is different, and young schoo children can tell a young Okinawan that they think Okinawa is like the an untamed forest where people wear loin cloths and live in trees, and that they eat and speak different, so must have blood that isn’t red.
      Why don’t you cut your finger to prove that your blood is red like ours?” I have these school children say to their okinawan classmate, and not many think it’s wrong, not even the Japanese adults. IF they do think something is wrong, they put it down to “bullying” rather than rascism. Even when you explain why this is a form of racial bullying, many Japanese do not get it. Some Japanese adults even claim that such bullying is no big deal because it is a microcosm of adult life, i.e., when the kids go out to work one day, they will be bullied for being at at the bottom rung of the ladder. As such, they must get used to it as children and learn to “gaman” these things if they want to survive as adults because such treatment is common in the workplace. Those who accept that it is racial bullying try to excuse it by saying that they really know nothing about a culture/peoples so alien and removed from them.

      On the other hand, Americans can be over sensitive about everything. I speak from personal experience. I look Asian but I have a British accent. Europeans have no problems with my accent. My American undergrads and grad students asked me if my accent is fake, why can’t I make the effort to sound American to be understandable if it is fake, why am aping White people by speaking the way I do, does the fact that i sound the way i do mean that i believe in colonial white superiority, why can i speak fluent english when i am not white, it’s so weird that I can’t “ching chong” or “ah so”. American colleagues in Unis from fellow lecturers to admin staff see me and are shocked, even though I’m the visiting professor. They claimed that I sound British and they did not know I look like an Asian, why do I speak fluent English when “everyone in America” knows the only Asian country that can speak English is the Phillipines because “we” (Americans) were in charge of it. The Head of department and the admin staff made me take the TOEFL and the local English test even though they had okayed my visiting professorship. Their reason was that my race and surname meant that it is impossible for me to be a native speaker of English. I told them that 5 generations of my family have spoken English at home, but they tell me my race and surname makes it impossible. I get full marks in both tests and I have to take it again to rule out cheating. When I point out that one of their surnames is Czech, another is German, and another is French, they shouldn’t know how to speak English either by their yardstick, I am told that they are born and bred Americans and it is different for them because they “look” like everyone else. Colleagues sympathetic to me are also subtly rascist. We go to a pub that is playing the “kungfu fighting” song. They are shocked that I am not offended me. They try to tell me why I should be offended. I ask them if they are offended by the “play that funky music white boy” song because by their yardstick they should be. They tell me I am silly because that song is complimentary to white people and they have nothing to be offended. But I should be offended by the Kungfu fighting song and there is something wrong with me for not being offended by it.

      In Europe, the movie “Holiday Inn” starring Bing Crosby is a holiday favourite. Crosby sings the “Abraham” number in blackface. The European audience of all races find nothing wrong with that movie or that number. The lyrics are held to be positive and anti-slavery. A WASP American colleague in Europe sees this movie and is aghast that it is not wholesome like “It’s a Wonderful life” and tries to educate all people of all racial backgrounds that it’s wrong and racist and should be banned forever by all countries who values the greenback’s role in their economies and the might of the American superpower.

      In Southeast Asia and many parts of Asia, some temples – both Buddhist and Hindu have the swastika. This is not the same as the Nazi one, as this one spins the other way. Americans have been known to be offended by the sight of these swastikas, call those temples Nazi, call the country that allows such religions Nazi and immediately leave the country. When they see someone of this race around, they freely insult them for coming from a Nazi country and being a Nazi by extension for not being up in arms in calling for these symbols and temples to be banned. When the buddhist and hindu swastika is explained to them and the difference is shown between this version and the Nazi version, they claim to see no difference and claim that the Asians are excusing Nazism.

      In the UK, faggot is a proper English word meaning a bunch of sticks tied together and used to light a fire in an old grange, fireplace, bonfire etc. Americans hear this phrase in the show “Lost in Austen” when one character asks the heroine if she has enough faggots to keep warm, and they complain that the show is anti-gay because it recommends the burning of gays at the stake.

      These incidents show that Americans, like the Japanese, should learn to be more aware of other cultures and not assume that their viewpoint is the most valid.

      • guesto

        It also shows that the non-racist Americans looking at race in everything in life are racist in the same unconscious way as the Japanese that do blackface.

        • Guest

          maybe the “non-racist Americans looking at race in everything in life” are black Americasn themselves and, thus, have to face the fact their race plays a part in how they’re treated every single day of their life.

          you sound super out of touch and stupid

          • anon

            Errr. I am Asian and I face discrimination daily too. In my experience, not everything is about race. It is about humanity. But the ones that look at race in everything ARE WHITES. White people say that Kungfu fighting is offensive BECAUSE it was sung by a Jamacian – this is my experience. Black people that I have met tell me that it’s a funky song and everyone has the right to be funky and that the only race is the human race not colour. White people have told me that I have no right to study a European language because I haven’t that “the right blood”. When I do attend the right conference for my “race”, all the experts are whites who believe they have more right to talk about it than I do. White AMericans go to an Irish pub in Ireland and are OFFENDED that football does NOT involve picking up the ball. White Americans go to Asia and are OFFENDED by swasitikas on temples and go around calling those countries Nazi and those people Nazis. White Americans presume to tell Asians that certain songs are racist and these asians should be offended. White Americans tell Asians that blackface is offensive while telling these same Asians in the same breath that they should be wary of black people as they are dodgy. How’s that for racism? White persons saying blackface is racist, declares themselves non-racist, BUT warns an Asian person that black people are dodgy in the same breath. Hmmm…. Look who’s out of touch now.

          • guesto

            Who’s out of touch? Not I. I wouldn’t call you stupid, not when you’ve done me the honour of granting me that status. I would just call you “over-generalising” and not looking in context.

            Not everything is about race. If I am a white man and I walk my dog and it shies away from a black child and an asian child and a russian immigrant child and my own white niece and my adopted chinese daughter, is my dog racist, does it mean i train my dog to be racist, does that make me racist? NO! It means my dog is shy with strangers and it shies away from everyone of all races that it doesn’t know. But according yo you, Americans would look at race in EVERYTHING IN LIFE and see this as a racist incident. According to you, Black Americans would look at this incident as a racist incident that they are subjected to every single day of their life.

            If I am a black woman with an Asian friend and she told me she found great shoes for herself and showed me the shoes, would I feel that she and those shoes are racist if they are dark brown shoes that happen to be close to my skin colour? Would I think that she DELIBERATELY bought those shoes to insult my race and be racist towards all blacks? NO! It just means she bought them because she liked them. But according to you, Americans would look at race in EVERYTHING IN LIFE
            and see this as a racist incident. According to you, Black Americans
            would look at this incident as a racist incident that they are subjected to every single day of their life.

            If I am Asian woman with a black friend and she told me she found a pale beige dress, and she showed me that dress, would I feel that she and that dress is racist if the beige of that dress is close to my skin colour? Would I think that she DELIBERATELY bought that dress to insult my race and to be racist towards all people of my race? NO! It means she liked that dress and it looks good on her and she wanted it. But according to you, Americans would look at race in EVERYTHING IN LIFE
            and see this as a racist incident. According to you, Black Americans
            would look at this incident as a racist incident be shocked that one of their kind has acted in a racist way to which they are subjected to every single day of their life.

            If I were a Burmese lady and I wore my national dress to a party in America, would I be offended if blacks and whites and other Asians complimented me on my dress? NO! I would be flattered. But according to you, Americans would look at race in EVERYTHING IN LIFE
            and see this as a racist incident. According to you, Black Americans
            would look at this incident as a racist incident and would feel sorry for the Burmese woman for nothing that she has been subjected to racism that they are subjected to every single day of their life.

            If I were a non-black but I like Calypso music, am I racist for saying so? NO! It just means I like it for its rhythm and danceable tune. But according to you, Americans would look at race in EVERYTHING IN LIFE
            and see this as a racist incident and would accuse me of being racist for liking it. According to you, Black Americans
            would look at this incident as a racist incident and think that I am racist and mocking them by liking something that is NOT of my own culture/race. According to you, Black Americans would be offended by me admitting that I like Calypso because they would interpret my liking Calypso as a lie that I made up to insult their race and music and they would think it’s no different from the racism that they are subjected to every single day of their life

            Examples of everyday things not about race, but white people make it so.

            CASE 1 – Play with accents

            In an amatuer production of Suddenly, Last Summer, all the roles were taken by different races. Violet Venable was played by an Asian woman, John Cukrowicz by a black man, Catherine by a Hispanic woman, her brother by a white. The Asian woman puts on a Southern belle accent to play Violet, the black man puts on a transatlantic accent, and the woman playing Catherine puts on a New Orleans slight French Southern accent. The cast have no problems with it. White persons watching the rehearsals complain that the Asian woman AND the Hispanic woman have fake accents that are insulting to the people they portray. The white persons also complain that the cast, the director are insulting southerners by letting something like this happen and endorsing the accents put on by the Asian and Hispanic women in the play. Even when proof is shown that colourblind casting was used and the play’s setting requires such accents, the whites still complain about how offensive and racially insensitive it is to southerners. When it is revealed that the Asian, black and Hispanic amateur actors are good with accents and pull off Russian, German, Australian and French accents, the white people are further incensed and accuse these amateur thespians of being racist because these whites think these thespians are mocking the people whose accents they don for various parts when necessary. They especially get on the case of the black man for being racist with his talent for accents because he should know better given his people’s history in America. The cast, the director and so on do not see it as it racist, but the white people attending the rehearsals do. Curiously, they DO NOT attack the white man playing Catherine’s brother for being racist even though he had to put on a Southern accent to play the part. They said he was true to the role. They then suggested as sensitive non-racists who fear other people might take issue with the play like them, perhaps the Asian and hispanic women should be dropped as they might be inappropriate for the play. They suggested that if the director wanted to be truly colour blind, he would use a cast that is all of the same colour, i.e. all blacks, all asian, all hispanic.

            So, a colour blind casting and no one being racist, and everyone doing their bit in the play as required of them in the script and setting, but white people coming in, saying they are non-racist, but seeing race in everything and accusing other non-white races of being racist/insulting/offensive.

            CASE 2 – Guy fallen down

            A black teenager skateboarding in the park falls down. A Vietnamese-American woman sees it and helps him. He has a wound, so she gives him a plaster (you will call it a band aid, if you are American, I think). That plaster has Tweety on it. Black kid sees it and laughs saying that it’s cute, and thanks her. He asks why Tweety and she replies humourously that she doesnt have any other plasters with other cartoon characters if he wants them. He says it’s fine and he likes Tweety too, and he used to watch the cartoons when he was a child, and thanks her for her help.

            The white people witnessing this approach the woman when she moves off AND they get on this woman’s case for giving the black youngster a plaster that is NOT of his skin colour. They tell her it’s insulting and offensive and racist of HER to not give him one of his skin colour. What’s worse, according to them, is that she is “insensitive” for giving him a Tweety plaster because she is endorsing her own skin colour (yellow) by using Tweety and that is why it is insulting of her to give that plaster to that kid who is not of her colour.

            So, a woman tries to be decent and humane and helps out another fellow human. There is nothing about race here. It is one person helping another. But white people seeing this, feel obliged to subtly tell this woman off for not being non-racist like them. In fact, white witnesses have subtly accused her of being a “yellow skinned supremacist” because she uses Tweety plasters and they have accused her of being racist by not giving him a plaster that matches his skin colour.

            Again, this is a case of white people who believe themselves non-racist, but seeing race in everything and accusing other non-white races of being racist/insulting/offensive to blacks.

            CASE 3 – Supermarket cashier counter

            There is an Express lane in a supermarket checkout. The lane has a big sign above the cash register saying that the express lane is only for people with fewer than 5 items. This is for people to make quick purchases without standing in line too long.

            Everyone in the queue does have 5 items at the most and the black cashier handles their purchases quickly. But along comes an Indian lady with a trolley full of things. That trolley has more than 5 things. People in the queue behind her stare, but are too polite to tell her that this is the express lane. When this lady comes to the cashier, she is told very politely that the express lane is only for people with a maximum of 5 items and the cashier points to the sign above. Indian lady apologises and says she did not see the sign and she feels awful that she nearly held up the queue behind her because she has many purchases. She then goes to another non-express lane checkout queue.

            White people in other lanes see this and complain that the black cashier is racist for refusing to serve the Indian lady. Even though the situation is explained to them and other people of other races in the express lane explain it to them, they continue to say so and kick up a fuss. They even accuse the other customers in the express lane of being racist for not demanding that the cashier serve the Indian lady.

            Again, an issue that is not about race, but white people who think of themselves as non-racist see race in everyday things and accuse other people of being racist.

            CASE 4 – Making homemade facial wash

            Mediterranean lady with acne has a beautiful black friend. She then says to her friend, “You have really good skin; it’s so clear and supple. I have breakouts and nothing I do works. I eat right and exercise, and I have sensitive skin, but those products aren’t heavy duty enough for me. What do you recommend?”

            Black lady friend replies that the heavy duty stuff are too strong and the sensitive skin products are too mild. She says she makes her own facial wash and shares the recipe of honey, oatmeal and egg white and so on with her Mediterranean friend.

            White people hear this conversation and get on the case of the Mediterranean lady by accusing her of being racist for complimenting the black lady’s skin. These white people accuse of her saying that she likes the black skin colour by calling it “good”; they accuse her of being racist for pointing out skin colour of the black person. When both Mediterranean and black women explain things, the whites continue to accuse the Mediterranean woman of being racist on another score, i.e., being ignorant (unlike them- the whites) that black homeotherapy skincare is different from the skincare of other races and it’s insulting to the black woman to ask for help with skin that is not of her colour.

            By this point, black woman gets angry that white people made something that is NOT about colour into something that is about colour.

            Again, in this instance, White people who believe themselves to be non-racist, interfering in an everyday conversation that is NOT about race and turn into something that is about race.

            CASE 5 – Hair braids

            A black woman with her hair tied in an elaborate braid only seen in wedding pictures walks down the street. An asian woman with long hair sees it and thinks it beautiful. She tells the black woman that she loves that braid and she would like to learn to do it on her own hair. Black woman sees that Asian woman has long hair and says, “your hair is long enough for this style, i’ll teach you.”

            White people see this and accuse the Asian woman of being racist. “Don’t you know that black hair is kinky and in complimenting her hair, you are drawing attention to how different her hair is from yours! You can’t do that! It’s racist!”

            Asian woman says she was only looking at the braid and thinking how lovely it is. She is then accused by these white people of being MORE racist because they say, “Don’t you know that some styles are only suitable for black people’s hair? That braid can only be done on hair texture isn’t limp and straight like yours!”

            Asian woman then retorts that it’s not true and she was taught how to tie that braid. White people then accuse her of MORE RACISM because they say, “When you braid your hair that way, people can see it is something ONLY dome by blacks. You will be insulting black people by braiding your hair that way.”

            Black woman tells them to bugger off because a braid is a braid and it’s rubbish to say one braid is suitable for white people’s hair, but not suitable for other races, and one braid is suitable for black people’s hair but not other races. White people are aghast that black woman doesnt feel that Asian woman is racist. They tell her pitifully that she must be excusing the Asian woman for not knowing better and they go off cautioning the Asian woman to never pull “the shit” she did with the black woman again.

            Again, white people who believe themselves to be non-racist turning an everyday incident that is NOT about race into one that is by accusing another non-white race of being racist. But in doing so, the white people have shown themselves to be unconsciously racist.

      • Guest

        LOL i’m always super embarrassed to read all those super long diatribes trying to excuse the inexcusable.

        japanese do black face as a “tribute” to black american culture —-> black americans are not honored, they are offended and call them on their shit. THE END. they should apologize and move on. there’s no need to make this a super long explanation of why this is OK when the people they’re supposedly paying tribute to are appalled by it.

    • Ms. Captain obvious

      Okay here’s an analogy to everyone defending Japanese media with this “they don’t know any better” bull shit.
      My SO’s coworker is a Japanese woman married to an American man. When they were dating one time, he bought her a boquet of flowers all made up of of different colored chrysanthemum’s, but they had some white in there too. Now in Japan, the only time one is given white chrysanthemum is at a funeral. She thanked him for his kind gesture but explained to him in the future that in her culture, the white chrysanthemum was for people who passed on, so in the future don’t do it again.
      They get married, move to America, V-day is on its way and she hints she wants flowers. Guess what he came back with? Chrysanthemum’s!!! She gets angry and asks him why did he give her the chrysanthemum’s, when she explained to him before what that symbol meant in her culture. Her husband says those were the only flowers left at Walmart and he just wanted to get her the flowers she asked for earlier.

      So in conclusion, was the husband trying to put his wife in the grave too quickly? Of course not! What should the husband have done? Logical side would say try another store, and I’m not saying the husband is lazy for not getting back in his car to find more flowers, but he should’ve gotten his wife other flowers. But I can assure everyone, that he will not be purchasing Chrysanthemum’s ever again for his wife, unless its time to meet her maker, which is the point I’m trying to make with this whole thing in Japan!

      Some people might think that flower story I just told was silly, and I admit I laughed too when the husband bought the wrong flowers a second time, but I understand the wife’s feelings because that’s one of the symbols of death in her culture, just how black-face is a symbol of racism in anti-black racism.

      We know, in regards to the people in question and I am not dismissing other Japanese people who did black face to get a laugh out of it, insulting black people is the last thing on their mind when they do this black face shtick. However, I’m sure they’ve been told before that a lot of Black people don’t like it, yet they still do it, and we’re tired of it! It’s 2015! And if they still haven’t gotten it yet in their minds that we Black people come in all shades of color and our skin color is not a gimmick or can give you magical powers to perform better, then we’re going to make our voices heard!

      • guest

        I am not insulting you as a black person or your views. Thank you for putting your views across so succinctly and dispassionately.

        I also mean no offence by what I am about to say. But the feelings you described could be a country-specific thing.

        I have come across black people in Europe and they are fine with the movie “Holiday Inn” even though Bing Crosby does the “Abraham” number in blackface. They acknowledge that the lyrics are positive and anti-slavery.

        However, when I came across black people in the US, they do not like the same movie because it features blackface. Granted, they do not raise a hue and cry like the white “anti-racist” camp calling for it to be banned from broadcast, but the blacks in the US that I have met do not like that movie because it has blackface in it.

        The European blacks I met do not see the blackface in the movie as a gimmick or as a means of gaining magical performing powers or any such thing. They understand the context, they listen to the lyrics, they observe the portrayal etc before jumping to conclusion or casting judgement.

        But the black Americans and the self-professed anti-racist whites are offended by the blackface in this movie because they share your opinion of it being a gimmick etc. I get the opinion that both the races who deem this movie to be racist have cast judgement and jumped to conclusions by dismissing out of hand and/or not heeding the context, the lyrics, the portrayal etc.

        This is what I mean by a country-specific feeling. It involves the same “race” feeling differently about the same issue.

        • guest

          Also, the black Europeans I met indicated that it was positive that the maid and her children were treated like family rather than servants. But the black Americans I met said that the movie offensively featured black people as servants and the “Abraham” number was mocking them. Once again, this is what I mean by a country-specific feeling. It involves the same “race” feeling differently about the same issue.

          I’m sorry if this offensive, but it’s possible for the same “race” to feel differently about the issue. A race is not a uniform entity after all, and their experiences, opinions and socialisations differ in different countries, contributing to their different viewpoints. There are equally insidious forms of racism within the same race (one example is Han Chinese hating non-Han minorities as barbarians that once conquered China; another example is one Chinese dialect group despising another Chinese dialect group, or even China Chinese and Southeast Asian Chinese cordially despising Western-born-and-bred Chinese for not being “Chinese” enough as they don’t speak Mandarin fluently and can’t write inChinese).

        • Ms. Captain Obvious

          First off, I don’t know why you’re using a movie in the pre Civil-Rights era to show how “country-specific” feelings are different. Secondly, I don’t know why you’re using your black acquaintances to bring up the “they’re not offended, not everyone of the same race feel the same” when that’s common sense..But to dismiss the black Europeans that also feel like their American/and non American counterparts is dismissive
          There’s was also a divide in the Korean dispora when Margaret Cho was making fun of North Korea at some award show this year and Margaret Cho saw no issue with what she did. http://time.com/3665825/margaret-cho-golden-globes-minstrelsy-comedy/

          My browser crashed 2x but here’s the black people you didn’t meet that oppose black face in their European countries

          http://lmgtfy.com/?q=black+face+in+europe

          Just in case you don’t want to read the countless of articles brought up

          http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/15/world/europe/dutch-tradition-of-black-pete-renews-christmastime-debate.html?_r=0

          http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2836013/Police-arrest-60-protesters-Dutch-Christmas-festival-disturbances-traditional-Black-Pete-clowns-blacked-faces.html

          http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2836013/Police-arrest-60-protesters-Dutch-Christmas-festival-disturbances-traditional-Black-Pete-clowns-blacked-faces.html
          (When someone from Australia gets it…I think there’s a point)

          or if you don’t want to read, and if you speak with a British accent I assume you’re from Britain, So..are these yankee’d up black people or what in the youtube video?
          I have cousins in Britain too, where my family is from it is still a colony of Britain and the immigrated to there where as another branch of my family migrated to America,and being from the same stock, I think its safe to say…”Holiday Inn” can be thrown in the fire.

          • guest

            There is no need to get so riled up. If you aren’t, I apologise. It’s hard to read tone online. But in using this movie, I am making a point. The black Europeans I know take the context, the meaning, the depiction, the history and what it represents of Yankee society in that period to both educate and entertain. Instead of being offended, they see it IN CONTEXT as something that they can learn from to understand what it’s like on that side of the pond during that period that such things were okay, that the war effort and the society of America in those days did look on black people in a certain, and to be entertained by the music and dancing. Whereas the Americans (no offence) are reactionary and dismiss the educational side of the film and are all “let’s burn this and forget it ever existed because it’s racist to the hilt.”

            While I did not choose to cover black Europeans who are offended by blackface, I did not dismiss them out of them. I just wanted to point out that just like not all Japanese are racists, just like not all Yanks are unconsciously racist when they make a big hoo-ha over race in everything in everyday life, just like there are people who are offended by such things like blackface, there are some people (even of that race) who aren’t. That’s all I wanted to point out.

            In a tit for tat move, I could also point out that you have seemingly glossed over or dismissed the educational potential of the movie. I am not offended and I hope you aren’t too. I am merely stating my opinion here – Instead of burning it as a racist movie, why not take the standpoint of the Europeans I know (of all races) and use it to understand that Yankee society was like that in those when it came to non-white races, that such things were viewed as okay then, use it to explain how things have changed, use it to explain why such things aren’t okay anymore, why such things can be offensive to some people, why some people aren’t offended by it, and why similar to pulling the same thing on other races and how other races might feel if something similar is done to them etc. And since it’s done through a light-hearted movie, the learning experience of such things is enjoyable and one is able to better understand.

            But all this aside, I am really disappointed in some of the more vociferous Yanks for taking on the mantle of being non-racist while unconsciously practicing it in so many well-meaning ways. If they (the vociferous in-your-face “I am not racist” sorts) can feel offended with blackface as something racist towards black and imagine that the “kungfu fighting” song is racist towards Asians, why do they not treat wearing another race/culture’s dress as something that is forward thinking and embracing of other cultures, why do they assume that only a certain race is “qualified” to learn a certain language or specialise in a certain field in order to be taken seriously? Until these Yanks or people of whatever colour from whatever country educate themselves and become self-aware, and use the past (through movies like Holiday Inn) to educate instead of simply demanding for bans, burning and consignment to the devil, they will – in my opinion – be no different from the Japanese or Chinese in Taiwan/China performing blackface.

      • Even if there are people that do defend Japan’s blackface. Japan has big racism/discrimination problem. I mean did you hear about Prime Minister Abe’s former adviser praising Apartheid and calling for segregating Japanese from non-Japanese:

        http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/13/us-japan-apartheid-idUSKBN0LH0M420150213?irpc=932

        http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/02/12/an-advisor-to-pm-abe-praises-apartheid-says-it-might-help-japan.html

        http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/02/12/national/author-sono-calls-racial-segregation-op-ed-piece/#.VO3f2PnF98E

        http://www.debito.org/?p=13077

        Also there’s a been a big anti-Korean sentiment in Japan:

    • Seekaii

      I hate to be a cynic, but how is a western based change.org petition going to change Japanese beliefs?

    • Nozomi

      So, may I ask for anyone who’s offended by this stunt (not just speaking for other people, who apparently should be offended) to reply to this? I’d really like to know how many there actually are. There seems to be a case of people saying how offensive this is without actually being directly offended, so yeah, I’m curious.

    • bakaneko

      ok, for me, the main concern is not whether the Japanese are racist or not… they may just be ignorant about this matter, or not.. i believe they can improve this.. but my main concern is, the fact that they didn’t try to issue an apology about this.. the parties involved should have the decency to be able to admit to their mistake and just apologize about it.. i think this also the thing that made quite a few ppl p*ssed with japan in general.. their inability to apologize.. like the issue with comfort women during WW2.. they wouldn’t even acknowledge the fact that shit DID happened.. they like to act as if nothing happened.. like a parent who’s child just shitted in public then when ppl point it out, the parent acts as if their kid didn’t do it and that the shit is a figment of everybody else’s imagination..

    • Tami Menzed

      in asian countries there’s no so many black people, maybe they don’t know/understand the meaning of that in western countries. meanwhile, western people misunderstand asian culture. stereotypes everywhere

    • Chayla

      Ok, here’s the problem. Westerners view it as offensive and the Japanese view it as a tribute. Obviously, that’s ignorance. People say we should educate them, but at the same time that’s what the internet (and library) is for. This is why my mother always told me to use the internet for more than social media, so I won’t make a complete ignorant ass of myself lol. However, I do hear of Japan censoring some things, so idk.

    • guest


      I’m from Japan. Sorry for my poor English.
      People turned out not to have learnt anything. This video was about April Fools’ Day promotion in Japan to the American movie Focus. They painted the guy’s face dark to disguise him as Will Smith starring it. Only a few Japanese people tweeted they shouldn’t have done that. I said the same thing on a board, but I got a lot of thumbs-downs. One of them said I was so boring I didn’t understand what was funny. I didn’t think it was. A non-Asian celebrity pulled her eyes on her photo and excused that she did that just as a joke, but a considerable number of Japanese people feel a bit angry with her. I hope more people notice these are all about the same.issue.