Open Post

Hey, Arama! Japan! It’s Friday, so it’s Open Post time! Feel free to chat with your fellow readers about whatever you like! Enjoy!

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    • Question of the week: Do you think any other celebrities are in a cult like Shimizu Fumika?

      • du

        Hikki is in the cult of ~A~

        • surfboardt

          iunno, Hikki isn’t going around wearing clothing with “JUICY” on her butt and taking tryhard Instagram pictures, so I don’t think she’s in the cult of ~A~.

      • HyperMoot .

        Does Tom Cruise count?

      • surfboardt

        Oh, I’m definitely sure there are other celebrities in cults as well. I don’t have anyone in mind, but it’s not surprising given how cults tend to target vulnerable celebrities these days.

      • rj

        x -japan disbanded because of cult Home of Heart, lead vocalist Toshi got brainwashed allegedly by his wife . 9 years his wife and masaya( cult leader) used him as money maker .finally he divorced his wife, left the cult after getting bankrupt ,had to start his career from zero Toshi also claims that his wife had been living with Masaya for the past 10 years

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toshi_(musician)

      • Even though he fortunately quit that shit years ago, but X Japan’s Toshi was in a cult for a long, long while, under the cult leader’s complete control.

      • yamakita

        The entertainment industry is a cult. Idol group agencies are super cults.

        • Just Tim

          Yet another reason why I’m not a Keyakizaka 46 fanboy/stan.

          I’ve been receiving this extremely strong impression from them how they’re purposely riling up negative international publicity for attention.

      • Yuu

        Its already mid February, I thought arama-awards results would be posted already..

    • Ryusenkai

      This has been a remarkably good week for releases, at least insofar as what I’m interested in. Sukima Switch’s “re:Action”, Ohashi Trio’s “Blue”, Yonezu Kenshi’s “orion”, androp’s “BGM”, and I rather liked RED DIAMOND DOGS’ “Stand By Me” as well. Anyone else having particularly good luck on that front this week?

      • HyperMoot .

        haven’t listened to Ohashi Trio’s latest yet but will in a very near future

        • Ryusenkai

          I’ve liked it a lot more than I did “Ten”, which I felt was a rather noticeable step down from “PARODY” (my #3 album of 2015). “Blue” kind of mixes the jazz and funk found on the latter with the folksier elements of the former, which works far better than you’d think it would honestly. Very pleasant surprise, all told.

          It and the Sukima Switch rearrangement album are probably my overall picks for the week, since the sheer amount of work that went into the latter (knowing what the original tracks sounded like) is absurd and worthy of acknowledgement. Also comes together as an album pretty darn well despite how many different people were involved in the production.

      • Well the new Fight It Out album came out this week and based on the previews it is just as insanely aggressive as their previous ones.

    • HyperMoot .

      got the latest CD from Abe-chan, nothing spectacular but I think it’s a very decent album. She’s just her usual self, I find it more interesting than Oppajime but maybe not as good as Anata No Sukina Watashi or Pop. Love it when she does speed tracks like Ikisouna hero or Gasp

    • surfboardt

      preiz baysus a new nekci menij

    • HyperMoot .

      would love another “nostalgia” post like the one Hasawa made a while back, with a set theme: some specific decade or genre, male singers, female singers etc…
      http://aramajapan.com/news/music/missing-j-pop-acts-where-are-they-now/70301/

      • hasawa

        I’m glad you enjoyed this article!
        The nostalgia article was bit particular cause i focused on acts that personally meant something to me and brought special memories about special moments of my life. I don’t know if i would be able to do the same with more ‘random’ artists based on special criterias (male, music genre…) as it would feel contrived and not genuine.. Also, i turns out most of the “missing” artists i used to listen to are either female soloists or bands (with diverse music genre) and not male soloist so i don’t think i’d have enough material to make a whole article focusing on missing male soloists or a specific music genre…

    • HyperMoot .

      Chihiro Onitsuka -Syndrome. Got it last week and I gave it several listens. The first thing that comes to my mind is that in spite of its flaws (the production of Goodbye my love really makes me cringe ‘cos when you play the piano version you find out it’s a pretty good song) she is at last her old self: emotion and some power in her voice. It also shows in the booklet pictures, she’s aged but it seems that the horrifying and ridiculous looks of the early 2010s are behind her. It’s calm maybe a bit too much, it surely lacks the fire she once had at the time of Sugar High but it’s the first Onitsuka album I’ve played from beginning to end since Dorothy in 2009. I was hoping for a couple of gems and wasn’t disappointed with songs like Gensoukyoku and Ultimate Fiction.

      The album is doing poorly on the charts, physical or digital, just over 8000 CDs sold so far :( . I can’t help thinking that this album should have been the one for her first come-back not the fourth. I still stand by her all the same.

      • gackyuful

        It’s a pity to hear that the album is not doing so well sales wise but otherwise I am very happy that she seems mostly back to her old self in this album (her vocal condition seems to have improved substantially). I feel that 弦葬曲 should have been the promoted song — Goodbye my love unfortunately did not really leave much of an impression.

    • Guest

      I know it may sound random but recently i saw an article about the disbandment of an idol group called Especia, some of the members of the group seems quite “depressed” and dissapointed with how things turned out for the group and their fans were obviously sad and worried for them but i couldn’t help but think, great news!, now don’t get me wrong, it’s sad that the members feel that way but they should seek for a better future instead of trying to make it in an idol group, which will only waste their potential as well as “soil” the industry as if it wasn’t already full of useless idol groups. Tl:dr when i see idol groups disbanding i can’t help but wish even more disbanded.

      • ffs

        …”soil’ the industry…” ffs. I really don’t understand the butthurt of idol haters. Idol groups are what they are. They are marketed to be popular and no amount of hating or wishing for their demise is going to make them go away. NEWS FLASH: Hating idol groups does not magically endow you with music cred. Arama itself should be proof positive of that.
        A sensible, rational music fan would carry on supporting their own group and spend less time obsessing over idol groups. If your favs are actually any good they will get on regardless.

        • Guest

          Idols are the scumbags of music industries honestly, when i wanted to get into Jpop all people would suggest me were AKB48 and company Johnny’s groups, Hello Project groups and to those more “western friendly” LHD groups, i had to dig for myself to find what i really wanted.
          Now i don’t go around hating on idol groups, i have way better things to do, especially enjoy the tons of great underground Japanese acts i keep on finding everyday, but when i hear about idol groups disbandments or about the Idol scene losing it’s relevancy by the day i can’t help but be happy i don’t care about having any cred, many people who don’t know very well the Japanese music industry look at Oricon, at those Youtube videos showing the charts and all you see are garbage idol groups and they get the wrong idea of Jpop, i got a wrong idea at first as well till years later i decided to dig deeper cause i couldn’t believe such, excuse my language, shitty idols were dominating the charts, thankfully by looking at the digital charts you can say things are changing, so yeah, if they weren’t so popular to “overshadow” actual real musicians i wouldn’t have mind, you can like them all you want but since some of them gets way too popular to the point where the physical chart is dominated by them because their fans wants that shake hand event ticket so badly, it does bother me.
          Another thing is if they actually were at last good maybe i would be less bothered but Japanese idols are just so bad in so many levels, from the garbage “songs” to the styling, they’re just ugh.

          • ffs

            The butthurt is nothing if not amusing. You contradict yourself when you say ‘i don’t care about having any cred”. Your entire post is about ‘real musicians’ and your belief that the type of music you like is superior.

            Well, it’s not. Music is music. It’s purpose to to bring enjoyment to the people who listen, regardless of whether they like idol groups or underground acts. The insistence that one form of music is somehow superior is not only ridiculous but smacks of a creepy kind of ‘elitism’. This mind set speaks volumes about the insecurities of the people who hold it. Use of the words “scumbags” “garbage” etc. are quite telling.

            Idol groups may publicly overshadow ‘real musicians’ (whatever the hell that means) but does that stop you enjoying your groups? Does it stop you obtaining their music? Seeing them perform? No, I don’t think so. It just comes back to someone feeling the need to put others down to make themselves feel good.

            • Yuu

              Excellent written response. Hit the nail on the head, especially this part.

              “Idol groups may publicly overshadow ‘real musicians’ (whatever the hell that means) but does that stop you enjoying your groups? Does it stop you obtaining their music? Seeing them perform? No, I don’t think so. It just comes back to someone feeling the need to put others down to make themselves feel good.”
              Lol some of arama regulars need ice for that burn.

              • Guest

                That wasn’t a burn at all actually, it’s true idols don’t stop me from listening to what a like but as i said in my first post they actually stop me from trying to dig deeper into the Japanese music scene, till years later i decided to dig deeper, as i have to say it took me sometime to find what i really wanted.

                • Yuu

                  Idols never stopped you. That was all in your head. You were the one who made very shallow effort in the first place coupled with your narrow mindedness. It was just excuses to defend your own narrow gross elitism and prejudice.

                  Dig deeper LOL, as if japanese music other than idols were hard to find even back in 2010 when idol-boom started to rise. What music and faves that you managed to find after years of arduous “excavation”?

                  • Guest

                    Well back in 2011 i was a pre teen who knew nothing about music, can’t blame me.
                    Prejudice and elitism, ha, i don’t have them, idols are indeed untalented and manufacted, they even admit it themselves, get all offended all you want, like them how much you want but that won’t change that.

                    • Yuu

                      No one is denying idols are manufactured and most of them aren’t talented singers here kiddo. It still doesn’t make their whole discography “garbage” or they themselves “scumbags”. I was not offended but I took pleasure giving a clap-back when someone like ffs gave a good roasting to snobs.

                      You’ve provided enough proof of your gross elitism, prejudice and narrow mindedness through your own words, it’s useless to deny it.
                      I’m guessing you’re just going to hide your “alt-superior” faves so we may not judge your (lackof) musical knowledge.

                      • Guest

                        You call that a good roasting?? LOL
                        Jpop idol music is garbage that’s why they’re not as popular as Kpop idols, which are garbage as well but at last they know how to make catchy songs.
                        I’m not being elitist at all i’m just saying the truth, you can like idols how much you want but if you like shit music you like shit music.
                        And it’s funny how you say i lack musical knowledge just because i don’t like manufacted idols, LOL how ironic is that?? HA, idols are basically dancing monkeys made to fullfil fans immaginations how can you even talk about them as if the music they make is something people should acknowledge as quality music when they don’t even make it themselves?? It’s embarassing the way you guys are trying so hard to put idols on the same level of real musicians, again listen to them how much you want but don’t expect people to stay silent and acknowledge idols when they’re the most manufacted and untalented people in the industry.
                        And it’s funny how much you want to pick on the artists i listen to just because i literally described what idols really are as well as they even admit it themselves LOL why you get so angry over the truth??
                        The only thing you need to know is that my faves make their own music, they don’t care about popularity but making quality music first and they indeed make it, oh and they’re talented ofc :)

                      • Ash

                        “Guest” should write for us. BTW, there are some… interesting idol acts if you are willing to let yourself go down that rabbit hole.

                      • Guest

                        Like EXILE and company, anyway unfortunately i’m not good at writing LOL, i also checked BisKaidan, not my cup of tea just like any other song from any idol group.

                      • Yuu

                        I’m not the angry one and I’m taking my chance to laugh at you. Seriously how many more times do I need to tell you that we are not denying idols are mostly a tool to convey the music (dolls, droids, monkeys … no human there ^^b)

                        Look at how you keep on describing it as “shit” as though it made a sound argument that your musical taste is superior and not shitty. You’re not revealing your fave or because you are afraid to be judged :). At least genre – since jpop/music is rich in genre & sub-genre

                      • Guest

                        I’m not gonna tell you who are my faves cause i’m sure you’re gonna act like the child youare and try to put them down no matter what cause i hurt your poor feeling by bashing your precious idols.
                        I don’t an idol fan acknowledgment cause my faves got already acknowledged and praised for their quality music :)
                        The fact that my faves are not idols already makes them better for a matter of fact, it’s not my fault if you stan the most untalented people in the industry, you should see all the criticism coming :)

                      • Yuu

                        The thing is my idol faves are already praised and acknowledged by the people in the industry for their quality performance, plethora of talents and music :). I also have non-idol faves who have contributed to their music and cashing on them. I’m laughing at your narrow-mindedness son. The one who is bitter and afraid of being judged is you :)

            • Guest

              You can like whatever you want, music is subjective after all but if you listen to untalented shitty idols you listen to untalented shitty idols, some may not like it but the type of music i listen to is objectively superior quality wise, my favorite musicians who actually make their own music care about the quality of their music unlike idols who rely on their pretty faces and creating some kind of characters to fullfil their fans immagination, and as said many times talent is not even a priority, how can you possibly support them? They’re making money out of their fans fantasies and out of their “pretty” faces, this is awful and i will never understand how can people be so shallow to support such manufacted industry which have some pretty dark sides as well.
              I said i don’t care about having any cred cause i don’t go around hating on idols, but since i saw that articl about Especia i wanted to give my toughts, call me butthurt all you want, ok i’m butthurt that such manufacted idols are so popular and living off of their “pretty” face, many other people think exactly the same, you can blindly like idols all you want but don’t expect people to be just as blind or ignore how awful they truly are, only people who like untalented acts use elistist as an insult, i’m not even being elitist, it’s not my fault if you like the most untelented and manufacted people you can find in the industry.

              • ffs

                Were you that kid in school who all the popular kids picked on? Or someone who hung around on the fringes of the popular crowd but could never really break in? It would go along way to explaining your rather childish attitude.

                • Guest

                  What does my life have to do with me voicing my thoughts? This is what internet is made for, this is what the Open Post section of Arama is made for, just because i’m voicing my thoughts on things i dislike doesn’t mean i grew up having an “horrible” life, what kid of logic is that? I’m seeing so many people use this insults as if i’m “angry with the world” when i simply stated a thought i had when i read about an idol group disbandment, why i can only talk about flowers and unicorns but i can’t talk about things i dislike without people like you who gets easily hurt and can’t stand negative opinions bringing up the “hurt life” insults to the table? It makes no sense.
                  Childish attitude? I don’t have it :)

            • Idol groups aren’t real musicians though… They merely perform as opposed to actually creating music. There is a reason for the terms “idol” and “artist.”

              • ffs

                But creating their own music doesn’t automatically mean the music is going to be good. Arama promotes a lot of indi acts which could at best be described as average.

                • Guest

                  At last they still work on it and there are people who appreciate it, unlike idols who sing whatever garbage they give them, as long as they look “pretty” that’s enough.

                • HyperMoot .

                  roooh, sacrilege !

                • This isn’t about quality. This about actually being able to create. And I could call those idols below average, and in fact, I do.

                  • Guest

                    Exactly!

                  • Yuu

                    “This about actually being able to create.”
                    There are idols who have composed their own materials, played their own instruments, etc.like Sayanee, Tsuyoshi Dohmoto, Nagase Tomoya & Tokio members, Sakurai Sho, Ninomiya Kazunari, Fuma from SZ, Nishikido Ryo, Subaru Shibutani & Kanjani8 members.
                    And your reply would be “that’s only a little/rare”. true but it still proves they have the ability to create. The rarity of it was probably caused by how they are controlled by their management.

                    “And I could call those idols below average, and in fact, I do.”
                    I’ve seen you’ve given high ratings on idol songs before though

          • aidoru

            you need to get over yourself

            • Guest

              For what exactly? Because i believe idols whith no talent who live off of by creating characters to fulfill their fans immagination as well as live off of their “beauty” and don’t even care about the quality of the garbage they release and call music ruin the music industry? Ha.

              • Adam Nafri

                are you suggesting that idol should be writing the lyric in order to become artist and get a place in your heart? everyone should become a composer/lyricist so that they are deem worthy enough?

          • Guest

            LOL my comment made it on OH, people can say i lost credibility the moment i called idols shitty as well as call me names all they want, that won’t change the fact that idols are untalented, manufacted people living off of because of their faces, if you want to be shallow and support them go ahead but don’t pretend people to be just as blind as you are and don’t get angry when people rightfully criticize them.

            • Yuu

              The shallow one is you it seems. You have the narrow assumption and prejudice that those who enjoys idols music aren’t fan of other more “serious” artists as well. Idols (mostly) probably are only the conveyor but their music/lyrics/etc still has merits. Criticize those “garbage” idols all you want but your snobbery and simple-minded generalization are free to be criticized as well.

              • Guest

                Yeah lyrics written by someone else, they’re just dolls who do what they are told to do, and no you got me totally wrong, i don’t think people who listen to idol music, don’t listen to other more serious stuff, i find people who support the way idols are pushed to be shallow, if at last idols focused on talented instead of only trying to live off of their beauty and fan services i wouldn’t dislike them as much as i do now.
                And the fact that you guys are getting angry for simply stating the obvious just prove my point even more, you guys want to support those manufacted idols? Go ahead but don’t expect everyone to ignore how awful that idol industry truly is and to stay silent, if you dislike criticism so much you shouldn’t have supported the most manufacted acts in the industry

                • Yuu

                  No one denying what they are lol. We all know how the industry works but your view on them is too simplistic and shallow

                  • Guest

                    How disliking idol music because they care more about being successful off of their “pretty faces and fan services and don’t even care about talent and nor the quality content of their music? Ha

                  • Guest

                    I’m shallow because i don’t consider manufacted idols who live off of their beauty and making characters to fulfil fans immagination, basically dolls, untalented dancing monkeys as much as good as real musicians? You keep on throwing words like Elitist, shallow so randomly trying so hard to defend those idols who have already admited themselves the things i’m saying, it’s amusing.

                    • Yuu

                      Your views are very one-dimensional.

                      For instance, there are more beautiful girls than Rino Sashihara and Paruru and honestly I think a lot of AKB top girls does not fit perfectly to Japan’s beauty standard. Arashi? A bunch of vertically challenged average looking dudes. LDH might have some looks but they also can pass of as thugs/yakuza types and often called gorillas. Perfume are often called ugly too. These are top selling idols drowning your indie faves. Where’s the reliance on beauty?

                      • Guest

                        You’re generalazing what few think of them, it’s easy to say, some call perfume ugly, ABK48 don’t fit beauty standards, there are obviously way more people who think otherwise and find them attractive considering their followings.
                        Especially AKB48, considering how much untaleted they are, as if their fans follow them for the music, sure.

                      • Yuu

                        You’re the one who generalized by blanketing all idols as vain creatures whoring their beauty. The “few” of them (particularly the girls from akb) are actually the most popular in their group. Arashi = Johnny’s biggest seller. I LOVE Perfume and have no qualms categorizing them as average in the physical department. That’s called being objective and realistic. They are still attractive to me but I’m not blinded by bias like you are blinded by your prejudice.

                        Akb48 and their fans doesn’t represent the whole idol genre (another of your generalization). Even so (& i’m not a big fan of them either), there are some of their songs that are inspiring, memorable and had quality musical production. For the nth times, WE KNOW people aren’t buying idols CDs for the music.

                      • Guest

                        I’m not blinded by prejudice at all, i gave them i try and i didn’t like them.
                        Where i said AKB48 rapresent the whole idol genre? Anger is blinding you, and again songs written by someone else.

                      • Yuu

                        Because your argument about idols relying on beauty fits them yet idols aren’t only made of akb. Like I said, one dimensional narrow generalization. Songs written by someone else but it didn’t lessen it’s merrits just because it was performed by them.

                      • Guest

                        Just because it fits them doesn’t mean i said AKB48 rapresent the idol genre, don’t put words in my mouth.
                        And other than their beauty i also said they rely on creating characters to fulfil fans immaginations as well as fanservices, this what idols are made of no talent whatsover.
                        I gice credit to those people who actually wrote the good lyrics, why i should give credit to idols too? What they have done other than act like the puppies they are, especially when they just ruin the songs with their awful voices?
                        Again go ahead listen to those garbage idols but don’t expect everyone to be as enduring as you are, my ears don’t deserve that and my tastes are too good for that.

                      • Yuu

                        But when it comes to idols only relying on beauty, it does fit Akb48 and most of the girl idol bands around. However your prejudiced view that ALL idols relied on their beauty is false. Its very simpleminded of you to deem them as scumbags just because you can’t enjoy their music. Your views on idols are too shallow and biased that you shall remain ignorant about them.

                        I’m open minded enough to listen to all sort of music and enjoyed them. It’s fortunate to have taste that is vast and rich, free from prejudice.

                      • Guest

                        I don’t think they all rely on beauty, many of them are actually very ugly, there’s nothing to learn from them and their music, i don’t have to go deep like in other genres to find gems cause idol music is all garbage from the surface to those deep down, especially the bikini/school girls to the ones trying to look “powerful” yet miserably fail.
                        Also you’re seriously saying people who don’t listen to idol music doesn’t have vast and rich tastes??? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahhaha the more you try to defend them the more you get ridiculous, oh please don’t try to put idol music above something they’re not cause it’s embarassing, like LMFAO huhu sure people who don’t listen to those grown adults singing like kids with those revealing bikinis have such have such poor tastes in music LOL mess

                      • Guest

                        Also you already amitted idols are manufacted and that people don’t buy their CDs for their music so what more do you want? I do give credit to the people who write those few good lyrics but Idols per se are untalented trash who just ruin music

                      • Yuu

                        I don’t want anything from you, just would like to laugh at your ignorance. Like I said, your views on idols are very shallow, narrow, prejudiced and full of gross generalization.

                      • Guest

                        No i’m not, keep throwing those words so randomly, i tried to listen to their garbage music and i didn’t like it cause it was too awful for my tastes as well as their voices can be just as awful, especially girls, they sound like a bunch of 4 years old kids, just trash, i don’t know how be so proud to listen to grown adults who act like kids LOL.
                        It’s not my fault if you get easily hurt by someone’s opinion/fact :)

                      • Yuu

                        Its not random words thrown and I suspect you don’t understand what prejudice means.
                        Your thinly veiled anger is entertainment to me, so thank you :)

                      • Guest

                        Prejudice:
                        an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.

                        I already told you i checked idols out and i conluded that they’re garbage, i give credit to those people who produce those few good lyrics but idols? They’re manufacted people who do what are they told to do.
                        I don’t have any prejudice.
                        Your anger over my opinion on idols being awful, even tho it’s not really an opinion since they’re indeed awful as well as actual facts related to them being manufacted and untalented people who rely on making characters to fullfil fans immagination as well as fanservices is entertaining to me, thank you :)

            • Yuu

              Here the link for anybody interested:
              http://onehallyu.com/topic/474561-interesting-comment-from-aramajapan/

              Btw Documentaly = Ronald

      • oh wow. i’ve just finised listening to their songs from 2016. i didn’t know about that. oO not my favorite songs but they had an interesting concept for sure.
        this one i really like tho:


        but don’t worry! o/ AOA is in Japan, already enriching jpop. a more juicy stuff for you!
        https://disqus.com/home/discussion/aramajapan/open_post_821/#comment-3163627059
        i hope you are not a girl. xD … well, their music is great too. the second song’s instrumental is similar to what Especia uses… lol

      • vorpax

        I’ve tried to get into idols, but I just can’t. When I listened to a AKB48 song some time ago, I cringed in embarrassment. The main selling point about idols it’s their image, the “music” (if we can call it like that) is secondary, and that my friend, I can not tolerate.

        • Adam Nafri

          that is problem with j-idol compare to kpop where most of them beauty/handsome with talents in dancing singing and acting.
          in j idol, they only want looks with personality only and you can be an entertainer.
          but if you dig deeper into their music catalog, actually there are so many nice and great songs.

    • gus

      Ryota of ONE OK ROCK got married to Avril Lavigne’s sister last October.

    • yamakita

      Hoping Wagakki Band would come back to LA…!!

    • sugar

      why doesn’t arama allow down votes?

    • Awilda

      Does anyone know any good place to watch Japanese PV’s ? Jposuki seems to be dead since a while.

      • HyperMoot .

        you can try YouKu, the Chinese server, it’s slow (depending where you live) but they do have a lot of stuff. There’s also niconico, Japanese site, registration is still free I think. Quite a lot of vids on the Russian social network VK too

        • Awilda

          Thank you :) It will help but I was looking more for sites were I can find new stuff to watch as it comes out but VK is quite nice if you know what you are looking for indeed :D

      • Falano

        Youku is my go2!

        • Awilda

          Thanks :)

    • does it count as jpop if they sing in Japanese?? o.O

      anyways, the second song (10 Seconds) is insanely hot.
      read that lyrics and cry!